Take the MSNBC Biden/Palin Debate Poll!!
October 2, 2008 by bchboy1
Man, this blog is turning in to poll central! MSNBC now has a poll on who you believe will do better with Thursday’s debate. Doesn’t matter whether you’re from Russia or Alaska you can just click on the link and vote…there is also room for quick comments.
here’s the link!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26995439/
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Why not question that the moderator, Gwen Ifill, of the upcoming Biden-Palin debate is pro-Obama. She wrote a book that praises Obama, obviously she will try her best to make Palin look bad in the debate Why couldn’t the moderator be more fair and bi-partisan?
Why not make fun of Joe Biden, who thinks FDR was President in 1929, and thinks paying more taxes is patriotic?
Hey, why not take the poll and have your vote be heard…as to the moderator you may want to watch the debate….I mean what if Palin has a stellar performance? Does still make the moderator a bad choice?
Don’t think so. An MSNBC online poll? Online polls are unreliable enough let alone from MSNBC viewers.
Telephone polls are your best bet. Zogby, Rasmussen, and Gallup will be out tomorrow with their numbers.
most of us won’t be called by Gallup and the others…this isn’t scientific …but it does allow others to at least “add to the pot”
It doesn’t matter if most of us are called. It matters that telephone polling has proven itself to be the more trustworthy and accurate way to gauge these things.
Palin did an outstanding job relating to the common person and held her own. For once she was able to speak without a biased editing room to make her look bad. After this debate the momentum will probably swing back to McCain and Palen.
The only accurate measure these days is the final vote, and sometimes not even that. (If it matters, I think Biden wiped the floor with her.)
The moderator HAS a conflict of interest and it was obvious that Biden had been briefed on the questions. He is a dork and shows it EVERY time he talks…but this time he had INSTANT answers to her questions. It is equally obvious that the Dems were waiting for the end of the Debate in droves to cast “votes” on the Debate…Biden did NOT win and Obama was blown away in the Mccain Debate. The Media is trying to “wag the dog” and twist the truth to control the public.
It didn’t seem to you that Palin didn’t sound “briefed” ?
They were both “briefed” and spat out talking points. But, at times, Palin seemed to break away from what her handlers told her and spoke more from the heart. You could see a stark difference.
If she wants to win people over, she needs more of that.
thanks…you’re good at what you do and I appreciate your commentary.. I’ve visited your blog…keep up the good work!
I love this biased editing room comment. Just how do you think an interview with Shawn Hannity is biased?
Liberal bias from Shawn Hannity? I think not.
First, I would like to see all the Sarah doubters and detractors in the Beltway/Manhattan corridor eat their words.
Eat them.
Sarah Palin is the real deal. Five weeks on the campaign trail, thrust onto the national stage, she rocked tonight’s debate.
She was warm, fresh, funny, confident, energetic, personable, relentless, and on message. She roasted Obama’s flip-flops on the surge and tea-with-dictators declarations, dinged Biden’s bash-Bush rhetoric, challenged the blame-America defeatism of the Left, and exuded the sunny optimism that energized the base in the first place.
McCain has not done many things right. But Sarah Palin proved tonight that the VP risk he took was worth it.
Her performance also underscored the underhandedness of the hatchet job editors at ABC News and CBS News, which failed to capture her solid competence on the whole array of foreign and domestic policy issues on the debate table tonight. (I didn’t care for all the “greed” rhetoric, but I understand they are trying to appeal to independents and Dems. They’re trying to win the election.)
Pause to reflect on this: She matched — and trumped several times — a man who has spent his entire adult life on the political stage, run for president twice, and as he mentioned several times, chairs the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Sarah Palin looked presidential.
Joe Biden looked tired.
Sarah made history.
Biden is history.
Michelle Malkin
What do need polls for? Sarah was great.
Michelle you said a mouthful…especially when you stated that “McCain has not done many things right”. Sarah did not convince me…I will be convinced after a few more interviews.
I’m not a party voter. That being said, I was looking forward to this debate because I was hoping to see what Palin is made of. The problem that I saw was the basic problem that many others saw as well. She blatantly dodged questions and recited a bunch of lines and points that she had been rehearsing for a week. I was very unimpressed and aside from her looking “good” (or not looking like a total jackass as usual), she really didn’t do that well. Instead of answering the questions she decided to re-route the debate to points that she wanted to make rather than give a straight answer. Which was disappointing to me.
I do not understand why there are so many people that think she won or think that, because she didn’t do as badly as everybody expected she would, she somehow came out on top. Since the expectation level for her was so incredibly low, there was no way, unless she is a complete and total moron, that she couldn’t have looked good or at least better than she has as of late.
So…this whole “let Palin be Palin” nonsense? By her 2 major interviews and this debate it is clear to me that Palin has been Palin this whole time. She is inexperienced, was spoon-fed the information she needed to slide through the debate, and really doesn’t have the basic knowledge needed to be VP or run the country. …sigh….”nucular”…
Furthermore…I thought the whole debate centered way too much around Palin and this whole “can she prove herself?” thing in the first place. The one thing that I will say, though, is that she spoke with confidence. But that’s not enough. The fact that she can debate doesn’t mean that she is ready to be the right-hand-person to the president or run the country in the event that McCain passed for that matter. Any “hockey mom” or “Joe six pack” that knows how to give the run-around like she did last night, with the proper coaching, can debate.
I tried to look at it objectively and that’s what I got out of her performance.
As far as Biden goes. I thought he carried on a few times just a little too much. But on a whole, as far as the issues go, it was clear to me that he dominated. Either way you look at it, both Palin and Biden got some facts wrong or took some out of context. The point is: Biden actually, for the most part, answered the questions asked. Palin, on the other hand, just talked a bunch of big points and ran around calling herself and McCain “mavericks” and herself a “hockey mom.”
Just my opinion.
Palin is just plain wrong. The woman has a very limited education and it shows. She is only capable of repeating the same talking points over and over again. McCain and Palin’s policies are dangerous. For instance, the idea that the fight against terror belongs in Iraq is pure stupidity. The Iraqis are taking their time at the cost of our soldiers lives and hundreds of billions of dollars. Giving the Iraqis a time table is the only way to put the pressure on them to take charge of their country. In addition, why the hell do you think Bin Ladin says the fight is in Iraq? He wants us to fight over there because he DOESN’T WANT US TO BRING THE FIGHT TO HIM. The fact that Palin actually notes that the “leaders of Alcaeda” agree with her is BLINDINGLY STUPID. Of course they agree! They want us to play cat and mouse with their brainwashed followers in Iraq. Staying in IRAQ is GOOD for Alcaeda. It gives them a stage
And by the way, who the hell wants a Vice President that winks at the camera. WTF? We are not hiring a receptionist here! I’m floored that people are stupid and shallow enough to think being “cute and folksy” is a plus. Have you even seen the interviews?? Palin is a dingbat. Palin is not an “energy expert”
Obama/Biden ’08
Lower your expectations and you will avoid disappointment. Could the expectations of Palin been any lower?
rjjs8878…you’re definitely on to something.
I couldn’t have said it better than Mica. You are right on. I don’t understand how people are ranting and raving over Palin. I know people want change, we all do, that is not going to come from her ticket. McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time. Now all of a sudden he is a changed man after all these years in the Senate? Doubtful. As for people’s comments on Biden being boring or just stating numbers – because he actually knows what he is talking about. Go figure, he answered the questions he was asked with examples, backed by his voting record. Palin sounded like a Chatty Cathy doll. Her string was pulled and she smiled and recited about the Maverick and change and her family. Being attractive and good at pontificating does not make for a world leader. God forbid something happened to McCain, and she became president, the U.S. would be the laughing stock of the world. I am an Independent, and I hope people see that voting Republican just because that is their party, won’t work this time.
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Sarah was able to read her talking points and wink at the same time. Biden was much sharper and dispayed a mastery of the facts. He made the correct tactical move by attacking McCain’s positions and largely ignoring Sarah. Clearly the majority of viewers felt that Biden won the debate and most of the undecided voters. Not to despair, after Obama is elected, Sarah willl have 8 years to study her talking points and learn to debate or audition for the Dallas Cowgirls Cheerleaders.
The debates don’t matter folks. Governor Palin reading talking points is no different than the other boys reading theirs. The problem is that too many Americans have continued to allow themselves to be fooled by both political parties when they are really one and the same. The oligarchy on Wall St., in Washington, and the news media have given you the two candidates you are supposed to vote for and accept whether they are qualified or not.
There are much greater, powerful forces behind the scenes that rule this country and merely use the White House and Congress to further their global, financial dominion. “We the People” have become nothing more than their serfs who exist for only what we can continue to provide them with, namely our blood and treasure. The bailout or rescue or whatever the hell you want to call it is the perfect example of this. Not only have you been told you must rescue the Pirates of Wall St. but also if you don’t, more calamitous ruin will befall all of you. The same idiots who created this mess are now the same idiots who propose to get us out of it. When you think about it, I suppose giving more pork to the rum distillers in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands is a good thing because we are all going to need a few drinks to swallow this nonsense.
When it comes right down to it, the American people are being played by the same out of tune fiddle Nero used as Rome burned. Our great republic is being destroyed by what the great Roman politician and writer Cicero called the “enemy within.” The entire Washington political class has betrayed us and should pay for their greed and incompetence with their jobs and finances. The only hope we have left is to punish them at the polls November 4th. Vote all 435 members of the House of Representatives out of office regardless of who their opponents are and vote out every Senator up for reelection in this cycle. Send a loud and clear message that business as usual in the Washington swamp is over and that the people of this nation are taking back their government. Remember, Thomas Jefferson wrote in the Declaration of Independence that the people have a right to remove their government when it fails to protect their God given natural rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The present government in Washington has utterly failed us and if we do not act now, decisively we will surely become a people who will have surrendered the greatest nation and greatest document of laws, the Constitution, to the elites whose only interests is in expanding and retaining their power.
Abraham Lincoln said long ago that the “judgments of the Lord are altogether righteous and holy.” America has lost its way and we are being punished for the arrogance and sin of trusting men whose lust for power is only exceeded by their greed. For me, I will only trust God almighty himself from now on and pray for America to find her way back from the abyss that evil, irresponsible men and women have led us to. Hell is being let loose on our great nation and we can thank the Pirates of Wall Street and the Washington elites for opening its door.
“vote the bums out” scenario…I do believe voting on the local level really would shake things up.
As a teacher for a number of years now, I can tell you that students have become increasingly undisciplined and entertainment oriented. If a teacher can’t sing and dance the information to them, Very often they think they shouldn’t have to engage themselves – sit and listen and think.
On a similar note, I believe that the general population has become mired in the ‘personality cult’ – personality is most important. Personality has somehow replaced personal integrity, relevant knowledge and good judgment. Noting above, how one respondent stated that Palin was the real deal because she was “warm, fresh, funny, confident, energetic, personable” – I find it sad if not completely outrageous. Those are qualities needed for a talk show host. I can be all those things too – but VP material I am not. I saw that Palin played to the lower intelligenced crowd. She relied on people who are unable to tell the difference between a wink and a fully researched meaningful bit of well articulated information. She knows that those folks will get caught up in the wink and their brain will light up when they hear familiar words (like ‘you betcha’ and ‘gosh darnit’). They ‘feel’ comfortable and the brain stops there. (Anyone can say those phrases – it doesn’t really mean anything. Bush used to tell us things all the time knowing that in so many cases if he just repeated it often enough, we would begin believing it.) ‘You betcha’ doesn’t go very far in handling complex global issues or national economic crises. Neither does a wink. Come to think of it, why weren’t more people incensed over the fact that a ‘serious’ contender for the role of VP of the USA was busy winking her way into her position while people’s children are dying in the middle east, their retirement accounts are dropping, they’re being foreclosed out of their homes, they’re being paid less than the other sex for the same job, they have disabled dependents who have had their services cut, ad nauseum. These are serious events in peoples lives and she’s communicating to them by winking? And that is supposed to make Americans feel good? Support her? It just shows lack of good judgment and good judgment, if nothing else, is what she, and everyone else running, should be exhibiting.
If she can’t name a newspaper or piece of literature from which she gains information about the US and the world – people are not making her look bad, she is bad.
If you support Palin because she reflects your philosophies (pro-life, drill in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge, gun ownership, abstinence only sex ed, etc) then say that you support her policies. Don’t try to pass her off as being anything that she is not: intelligent and knowledgeable about the world, foreign policy, USA economics, science, the environment, women’s rights, (ad nauseum) and undesiring of making everyone live according to her own very personal and limited philosophy.